Tuesday, May 31, 2011

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Monday, May 30, 2011

New Revelation and Persecution by Sectarian Mormon Priests

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Over air response to mockery by caller and host "Literary Device" Hale.  Evil-speaking of the Lord's anointed is unholy and impure practice, saith the Lord.  Asked for evidence to be produced why Art Bulla is not the prophesied "One Mighty and Strong" spoken of in Isaiah 28 and DC 85.  "Literary Device" Hale criticized for bringing his anti-Christ hammer and chisel to chip away at the credibility of DC 85 as this fool does concerning every other testimony (i.e. "the Book of Mormon is a literary device").  Read from DC 121 concerning fate given me of the Lord concerning these persecutors and defamers.  Conferred with Jimmy on weather.  Plagues being poured out on Gentiles.  Then read from Orson Pratt's masterful "New Revelation" discussing absurdity of bounding the All Mighty to a canon defined by the "Whore of all the earth" the "Mother of Harlots" (Constantine and Roman) in 373 AD.  

5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

            (Rev  17:5)

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  • "But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?"  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Two 1834-37 Pg.60
  •  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 Pg.365
       When a man goes about prophesying, and commands men to obey his teachings, he must either be a true or false prophet.
     
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  •  "All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God."  Joseph Smith; TPJS p. 376
  • "He that can mark the power of Omnipotence, inscribed upon the heavens, can also see God's own handwriting in the sacred volume: and he who reads it oftenest will like it best, and he who is acquainted with it, will know the hand wherever he can see it...." (T.P.J.S., p. 56)

·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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Friday, May 27, 2011

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Debate With AntiChrist Liberal Theology Student by Art Bulla Thu, May 26, 2011 Began program with apostate Christianity analysis. Then a self-described missionary, theology student called in mocking Temple ceremony (from Sunday night). I discerned he was a Darwinist at heart, which he denied. Had a supercilious tone. Later he said the origins of inhabitants of North America was not scattered Ephraim from Europe, but Africa (all people come from Africa), thus exposing himself as a liar, first of all, and then a Darwinist, as this is the favorite hobbyhorse theory of the Leakeys with a supposed "hominid" named Lucy, which dogma is false and a fabrication by designing men, to prop up liberalism world-view. 16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them (Israel), and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth. 17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head. 18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this [is] the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head. 19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother (Ephraim) shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations Europe and North America, saith the Lord). (Gen 48:16-19)

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Debate with Liberal Anti-Christ Theology Student

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Debate With AntiChrist Liberal Theology Student

by Art Bulla

Thu, May 26, 2011

   Began program with apostate Christianity analysis.  Then a self-described missionary, theology student called in mocking Temple ceremony (from Sunday night).  I discerned he was a Darwinist at heart, which he denied.  Had a supercilious  tone.  Later he said the origins of inhabitants of North America was not scattered Ephraim from Europe, but Africa (all people come from Africa), thus exposing himself as a liar, first of all, and then a Darwinist, as this is the favorite hobbyhorse theory of the Leakeys with a supposed "hominid" named Lucy, which dogma is false and a fabrication by designing men, to prop up liberalism world-view.  16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them (Israel), and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.  17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.  18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this [is] the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.  19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great:
but truly his younger brother (Ephraim) shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations Europe and North America, saith the Lord).             (Gen  48:16-19)
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  • "But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?"  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Two 1834-37 Pg.60
  •  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 Pg.365
       When a man goes about prophesying, and commands men to obey his teachings, he must either be a true or false prophet.
     
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  •  "All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God."  Joseph Smith; TPJS p. 376
  • "He that can mark the power of Omnipotence, inscribed upon the heavens, can also see God's own handwriting in the sacred volume: and he who reads it oftenest will like it best, and he who is acquainted with it, will know the hand wherever he can see it...." (T.P.J.S., p. 56)

·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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Thursday, May 26, 2011

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Tuesday, May 24, 2011

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Revelation to Pharaoh (Barack Obama) received May 24, 2011

  The Revelations of Jesus Christ
 
 Revelation to Pharaoh (Barack Obama) received May 24, 2011

Thus saith the Lord, I the Lord God have raised up he who is known among men, Barack Obama, even as I did raise up Pharaoh of Egypt of old, that he might be a vessel of wrath, that I may show forth my power in him. For thus will I bare my holy arm to the nations of the earth. For thou, O man, art commanded, saith the Lord God of Israel, to let my people go, even the children of Israel, even Ephraim, who have been gathered out on the face of the land northward, even that which is known among men, North America-into the valley of the great Salt Lake. And this that the Latter Day Saints may return to that land which is known as the center place, even that Independence, Missouri, from which they were driven out by the Gentiles in 1844, which also resulted in the deaths of my servants Joseph and harm Smith,  whose blood has not been requited even now. For I the Lord God did, through Joseph, designate this and Jerusalem, which is now inhabited by the Jews,  as the capital cities from which my footstool shall be ruled in the millennium. 

For these are plagues, saith the Lord, which have caused the destruction of thy cities, even that which is known as Joplin, and also that which is known as Tuscaloosa and floods and volcanoes and earthquakes, which shall be poured out upon thee without let, until ye let my people go, saith the Lord. For I have also raised up in to my people a Moses, saith the Lord, who shall lead my people, Israel as at first. For even as the fathers were led at first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be, saith the Lord. And except you do this, saith the Lord, thy nation and people, even Babylon the Great, shall be broken in pieces as a potters vessel by mine arm even as Pharaoh and Egypt were broken at first.   For I have also raised up in to my people a Moses, saith the Lord, who shall lead my people, Israel as at first. For even as the fathers were led at first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be, saith the Lord. And except you do this set the Lord, thy nation and people, even Babylon the Great, shall be broken in pieces as a potters vessel by mine arm even as Pharaoh and Egypt were broken at first. For it is that I the Lord God, by the weak simple, and despised things, the stutterers and stammerers of the earth, will I thrash thy nation as at first.  For as I spake by my servant Paul: Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. And as Paul spake when move upon by the Holy Ghost: For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to naught things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. Even so, Amen.
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  • "But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?"  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Two 1834-37 Pg.60
  •  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 Pg.365
       When a man goes about prophesying, and commands men to obey his teachings, he must either be a true or false prophet.
     
  •  Our website: http://www.artbulla.com
  •  "All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God."  Joseph Smith; TPJS p. 376
  • "He that can mark the power of Omnipotence, inscribed upon the heavens, can also see God's own handwriting in the sacred volume: and he who reads it oftenest will like it best, and he who is acquainted with it, will know the hand wherever he can see it...." (T.P.J.S., p. 56)

·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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Monday, May 23, 2011

Wherefore Why Murmur Ye That Ye Receive More of My Word?

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Sun, May 22, 2011
 
Camping failure due to false doctrine of Christianity, saith the Lord. 

 10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

            (1 Cor  10:10)

8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.

            (2 Ne  29:8)

 5 For it was that Shem is an High Priest ordained  unto mine Order under the hands of the Fa­thers, yea even before the flood wast he ordained, and because of the interpolations of men, the Gentiles stumble upon this point of my doctrine, which was plain and precious unto the under­standing of men in that day as it was taught unto the Church by mine ancient Apostles and Prophets, even Paul and others, saith the Lord God.

 6 And the Gentiles also stumble upon other points of my doctrine, and they shall drink dam­nation unto their souls if they turn not away from their false teachers whom I the Lord God have not called and who are not of me. The Revelations of Jesus Christ, Section 5, Received 1980, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Mormons reproved over infallibility of Church doctrine taught by most:  "But the query arises, Suppose they (Joseph and Oliver) had not been sustained? Suppose that little flock had voted against, instead of for, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery, what would have been the consequence? Would it have taken from those two elders the priesthood which God had conferred upon them? Would it have taken away the gifts which He had given them? "  Orson F. Whitney.

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  • "But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?"  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Two 1834-37 Pg.60
  •  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 Pg.365
       When a man goes about prophesying, and commands men to obey his teachings, he must either be a true or false prophet.
     
  •  Our website: http://www.artbulla.com
  •  "All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God."  Joseph Smith; TPJS p. 376
  • "He that can mark the power of Omnipotence, inscribed upon the heavens, can also see God's own handwriting in the sacred volume: and he who reads it oftenest will like it best, and he who is acquainted with it, will know the hand wherever he can see it...." (T.P.J.S., p. 56)

·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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Why Murmur: More of My Word?
by Art Bulla

Sun, May 22, 2011

Camping failure due to false doctrine of Christianity, saith the Lord.

10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

(1 Cor 10:10)

8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.

(2 Ne 29:8)

5 For it was that Shem is an High Priest ordained unto mine Order under the hands of the Fa­thers, yea even before the flood wast he ordained, and because of the interpolations of men, the Gentiles stumble upon this point of my doctrine, which was plain and precious unto the under­standing of men in that day as it was taught unto the Church by mine ancient Apostles and Prophets, even Paul and others, saith the Lord God.

6 And the Gentiles also stumble upon other points of my doctrine, and they shall drink dam­nation unto their souls if they turn not away from their false teachers whom I the Lord God have not called and who are not of me. The Revelations of Jesus Christ, Section 5.

Mormons reproved over infallibility of Church doctrine taught by most: "But the query arises, Suppose they (Joseph and Oliver) had not been sustained? Suppose that little flock had voted against, instead of for, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery, what would have been the consequence? Would it have taken from those two elders the priesthood which God had conferred upon them? Would it have taken away the gifts which He had given them? " Orson F. Whitney.

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Sunday, May 22, 2011

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Thursday, May 19, 2011

The Holy Order of God

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  Tue, May 17, 2011

Order in the Priesthood.  Order of counsel.  Ruminations with Jimmy Hardy on these.  Sects of Christianity stumble over Bible being the only word spoken by God.  All scripture comes through the House of Israel.  Bible written by Judah, Benjamin and Levi.  Stick of Judah.  However what about the House of Joseph?  Ephriam the birthright tribe. North America belongs to Ephraim, saith the Lord. Book of Mormon written by Manasseh, the brother of Ephraim.  Stick of Joseph.  Camping false prophet, and Christians stumble on this obvious point.

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 16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions:
 17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
 18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou [meanest] by these?
 19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
 20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

   (Ezek  37:16-20)

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 8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
 9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
 10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.

            (2 Ne  29:8-10)

 
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  • "But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?"  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Two 1834-37 Pg.60
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       When a man goes about prophesying, and commands men to obey his teachings, he must either be a true or false prophet.
     
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  •  "All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God."  Joseph Smith; TPJS p. 376
  • "He that can mark the power of Omnipotence, inscribed upon the heavens, can also see God's own handwriting in the sacred volume: and he who reads it oftenest will like it best, and he who is acquainted with it, will know the hand wherever he can see it...." (T.P.J.S., p. 56)

·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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Order in the Priesthood. Order of counsel. Ruminations with Jimmy Hardy on these. Sects of Christianity stumble over Bible being the only word spoken by God. All scripture comes through the House of Israel. Bible written by Judah, Benjamin and Levi. Stick of Judah. However what about the House of Joseph? Ephriam the birthright tribe. North America belongs to Ephraim, saith the Lord. Book of Mormon written by Manasseh, the brother of Ephraim. Stick of Joseph. Camping false prophet, and Christians stumble on this obvious point.

8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the testimony of two nations is a witness unto you that I am God, that I remember one nation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two nations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.

(2 Ne 29:8-10)

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Monday, May 16, 2011

Try the Spirits-RLDS False OMS Detected

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  Sun, May 15, 2011

  The claims of the Reorganized Church of LDSanalyzed.  Key to detection of the "mysterious windings" of false spirits and illecit channel through which revelation to RLDS concerning "the reorganization": revelation received "through a woman" identifying OMS as Joseph III, according to testimony of two "Seventies" of RLDS on Van Hale's program Sunday.   "It may be asked, where is there anything in all this that is wrong?   First. The church was organized by women, and God placed in the Church (first apostles, secondarily prophets,) and not first women; but Mr. Irving placed in his church first women (secondarily apostles,) and the church was founded and organized by them. A woman has no right to found or organize a church-God never sent them to do it." (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.212)  Evidently these Reorganites consider Joseph to be a fallen prophet in this matter also.  Recording of my call into this program and confrontation with these two played.  Joseph may have wavered on introducing polygamy to the Church for he saw the pograms of the beast (US) which would wear out the Saints.  Finally commanded by an angel with a drawn sword to introduce.  July 4, 1981 I laid hands on the corner-stone of the Temple to be built in Independence and uttered by divine command, prayer, dedicating the plot specified to the return of the Latter-Day-Saints. Hedrickites showed me documents foretelling of OMS. They believe that Joseph fell (which I consider blasphemous) out of jealousy of the OMS and his mission to redeem Zion But this revelation that Joseph never fell, but endured to the end: "And my servant Joseph, saith the Lord, did abide in me, even unto the end." Revelations of Jesus Christ, Sect 2: 22. I know Joseph never fell.

 

The Prophet's Editorial in the Times and Seasons   
Recent occurrences that have transpired amongst us render it an imperative duty devolving upon me to say something in relation to the spirits by which men are actuated.   
 It is evident from the Apostles' writings, that many false spirits existed in their day, and had "gone forth into the world," and that it needed intelligence which God alone could impart to detect false spirits, and to prove what spirits were of God. The world in general have been grossly ignorant in regard to this one thing, and why should they be otherwise-for "the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God."   
 The Egyptians were not able to discover the difference between the miracles of Moses and those of the magicians until they came to be tested together; and if Moses had not appeared in their midst, they would unquestionably have thought that the miracles of the magicians were performed through the mighty power of God, for they were great miracles that were performed by them-a supernatural agency was developed, and great power manifested.   
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 It would have been equally as difficult for us to tell by what spirit the Apostles prophesied, or by what power the Apostles spoke and worked miracles. Who could have told whether the power of Simon, the sorcerer, was of God or of the devil?   
 There always did, in every age, seem to be a lack of intelligence pertaining to this subject. Spirits of all kinds have been manifested, in every age, and almost among all people.   
 If we go among the pagans, they have their spirits; the Mohammedans, the Jews, the Christians, the Indians-all have their spirits, all have a supernatural agency, and all contend that their spirits are of God. Who shall solve the mystery? "Try the spirits," says John, but who is to do it? The learned, the eloquent, the philosopher, the sage, the divine-all are ignorant. The heathens will boast of their gods, and of the great things that have been unfolded by their oracles. The Mussulman will boast of his Koran, and of the divine communications that his progenitors have received. The Jews have had numerous instances, both ancient and modern, among them of men who have professed to be inspired, and sent to bring about great events, and the Christian world has not been slow in making up the number.   

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.202-203)

Ignorance of the Nature of Spirits   


   (Ignorance of the Nature of Spirits    1)

 "Try the spirits," but what by? Are we to try them by the creeds of men? What preposterous folly-what sheer ignorance-what madness! Try the motions and actions of an eternal being (for I contend that all spirits are such) by a thing that was conceived in ignorance, and brought forth in folly-a cobweb of yesterday! Angels would hide their faces, and devils would be ashamed and insulted, and would say, "Paul we know, and Jesus we know, but who are ye?" Let each man of society make a creed and try evil spirits by it, and the devil would shake his sides; it is all that he would ask-all that he would desire. Yet many of them do this, and hence "many spirits are abroad in the world."   
 One great evil is, that men are ignorant of the nature of spirits; their power, laws, government, intelligence, etc., and imagine that when there is anything like power, revelation, or vision manifested, that it must be of God. Hence the Methodists, Presbyterians, and others frequently possess a spirit that will cause them to lie down, and during its operation, animation is frequently entirely suspended; they consider it to be the power of God, and a glorious manifestation from God-a manifestation of what? Is there any intelligence communicated? Are the curtains of heaven withdrawn, or the purposes of God developed? Have they seen and conversed with an angel-or have the glories of futurity burst upon their view? No! but their body has been inanimate, the operation of their spirit suspended, and all the intelligence that can be obtained from them when they arise, is a shout of "glory," or "hallelujah," or some incoherent expression; but they have had "the power."   
 The Shaker will whirl around on his heel, impelled by a supernatural agency or spirit, and think that he is governed by the Spirit of God; and the Jumper will jump and enter into all kinds of extravagances. A Primitive Methodist will shout under the influence of that spirit, until he will rend the heavens with his cries; while the Quakers (or Friends) moved as they think, by the Spirit of God, will sit still and say nothing. Is God the author of all this? If not of all of it, which does He recognize? Surely, such a heterogeneous mass of confusion never can enter into the kingdom of heaven.    

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.203-204)

Discerning of Spirits By Power of Priesthood   

   (Discerning of Spirits By Power of Priesthood    1)

 Every one of these professes to be competent to try his neighbor's spirit, but no one can try his own, and what is the reason? Because they have not a key to unlock, no rule wherewith to measure, and no criterion whereby they can test it. Could any one tell the length, breadth or height of a building without a rule? Test the quality of metals without a criterion, or point out the movements of the planetary systems, without a knowledge of astronomy? Certainly not; and if such ignorance as this is manifested about a spirit of this kind, who can describe an angel of light? If Satan should appear as one in glory, who can tell his color, his signs, his appearance, his glory, or what is the manner of his manifestation? Who can detect the spirit of the French prophets with their revelations and their visions, and power of manifestations? Or who can point out the spirit of the Irvingites, with their apostles and prophets, and visions and tongues, and interpretations, etc. Or who can drag into daylight and develop the hidden mysteries of the false spirits that so frequently are made manifest among the Latter-day Saints? We answer that no man can do this without the Priesthood, and having a knowledge of the laws by which spirits are governed; for as no man knows the things of God, but by the Spirit of God, so no man knows the spirit of the devil, and his power and influence, but by possessing intelligence which is more than human, and having unfolded through the medium of the Priesthood the mysterious operations of his devices; without knowing the angelic form, the sanctified look and gesture, and the zeal that is frequently manifested by him for the glory of God, together with the prophetic spirit, the gracious influence, the godly appearance, and the holy garb, which are so characteristic of his proceedings and his mysterious windings.   
 A man must have the discerning of spirits before he can drag into daylight this hellish influence and unfold it unto the world in all its soul-destroying, diabolical, and horrid colors; for nothing is a greater injury to the children of men than to be under the influence of a false spirit when they think they have the Spirit of God. Thousands have felt the influence of its terrible power and baneful effects. Long pilgrimages have been undertaken, penances endured, and pain, misery and ruin have followed in their train; nations have been convulsed, kingdoms overthrown, provinces laid waste, and blood, carnage and desolation are habiliments in which it has been clothed.   
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   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.204-205)

The Spirit of God the Spirit of Knowledge   

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As we have noticed before, the great difficulty lies in the ignorance of the nature of spirits, of the laws by which they are governed, and the signs by which they may be known; if it requires the Spirit of God to know the things of God; and the spirit of the devil can only be unmasked through that medium, then it follows as a natural consequence that unless some person or persons have a communication, or revelation from God, unfolding to them the operation of the spirit, they must eternally remain ignorant of these principles; for I contend that if one man cannot understand these things but by the Spirit of God, ten thousand men cannot; it is alike out of the reach of the wisdom of the learned, the tongue of the eloquent, the power of the mighty. And we shall at last have to come to this conclusion, whatever we may think of revelation, that without it we can neither know nor understand anything of God, or the devil; and however unwilling the world may be to acknowledge this principle, it is evident from the multifarious creeds and notions concerning this matter that they understand nothing of this principle, and it is equally as plain that without a divine communication they must remain in ignorance. The world always mistook false prophets for true ones, and those that were sent of God, they considered to be false prophets, and hence they killed, stoned, punished and imprisoned the true prophets, and these had to hide themselves "in deserts and dens, and caves of the earth," and though the most honorable men of the earth, they banished them from their society as vagabonds, whilst they cherished, honored and supported knaves, vagabonds, hypocrites, impostors, and the basest of men.    

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.205)

The Gift of Discernment of Spirits   

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 A man must have the discerning of spirits, as we before stated, to understand these things, and how is he to obtain this gift if there are no gifts of the Spirit? And how can these gifts be obtained without revelation? "Christ ascended into heaven, and gave gifts to men; and He gave some Apostles, and some Prophets, and some Evangelists, and some Pastors and Teachers." And how were Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers and Evangelists chosen? By prophecy (revelation) and by laying on of hands-by a divine communication, and a divinely appointed ordinance-through the medium of the Priesthood, organized according to the order of God, by divine appointment. The Apostles in ancient times held the keys of this Priesthood-of the mysteries of the Kingdom of God, and consequently were enabled to unlock and unravel all things pertaining to the government of the Church, the welfare of society, the future destiny of men, and the agency, power and influence of spirits; for they could control them at pleasure, bid them depart in the name of Jesus, and detect their mischievous and mysterious operations when trying to palm themselves upon the Church in a religious garb, and militate against the interest of the Church and spread of truth. We read that they "cast out devils in the name of Jesus," and when a woman possessing the spirit of divination, cried before Paul and Silas, "these are the servants of the Most High God that show unto us the way of salvation," they detected the spirit. And although she spake favorably of them, Paul commanded the spirit to come out of her, and saved themselves from the opprobrium that might have been heaped upon their heads, through an alliance with her, in the development of her wicked principles, which they certainly would have been charged with, if they had not rebuked the evil spirit.    

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.206)

The Gift Held By the Prophets   

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 A power similar to this existed through the medium of the Priesthood in different ages. Moses could detect the magician's power, and show that he [himself] was God's servant-he knew when he was upon the mountain (through revelation) that Israel was engaged in idolatry; he could develop the sin of Korah, Dathan and Abiram, detect witches and wizards in their proceedings, and point out the true prophets of the Lord. Joshua knew how to detect the man who had stolen the wedge of gold and the Babylonish garment. Michaiah could point out the false spirit by which the four hundred prophets were governed; and if his advice had been taken, many lives would have been spared (2 Chronicles 18). Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and many other prophets possessed this power. Our Savior, the Apostles, and even the members of the Church were endowed with this gift, for, says Paul (1 Corinthians 12), "To one is given the gift of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the discerning of spirits." All these proceeded from the same Spirit of God, and were the gifts of God. The Ephesian church were enabled by this principle, "to try those that said they were apostles, and were not, and found them liars." (Revelation 2:2.)   

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.207)

Difference Between Body and Spirit   

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 In tracing the thing to the foundation, and looking at it philosophically, we shall find a very material difference between the body and the spirit; the body is supposed to be organized matter, and the spirit, by many, is thought to be immaterial, without substance. With this latter statement we should beg leave to differ, and state the spirit is a substance; that it is material, but that it is more pure, elastic and refined matter than the body; that it existed before the body, can exist in the body; and will exist separate from the body, when the body will be mouldering in the dust; and will in the resurrection, be again united with it.    

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.207)

Spirits Eternal   

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 Without attempting to describe this mysterious connection, and the laws that govern the body and the spirit of man, their relationship to each other, and the design of God in relation to the human body and spirit, I would just remark, that the spirits of men are eternal, that they are governed by the same Priesthood that Abraham, Melchizedek, and the Apostles were: that they are organized according to that Priesthood which is everlasting, "without beginning of days or end of years,"-that they all move in their respective spheres, and are governed by the law of God; that when they appear upon the earth they are in a probationary state, and are preparing, if righteous, for a future and greater glory; that the spirits of good men cannot interfere with the wicked beyond their prescribed bounds, for Michael, the Archangel, dared not bring a railing accusation against the devil, but said, "The Lord rebuke thee, Satan."   

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.208)

Wicked Spirits Restricted in Power   

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 It would seem also, that wicked spirits have their bounds, limits, and laws by which they are governed or controlled, and know their future destiny; hence, those that were in the maniac said to our Savior, "Art thou come to torment us before the time," and when Satan presented himself before the Lord, among the sons of God, he said that he came "from going to and fro in the earth, and from wandering up and down in it;" and he is emphatically called the prince of the power of the air; and, it is very evident that they possess a power that none but those who have the Priesthood can control, as we have before adverted to, in the case of the sons of Sceva.   
 Having said so much upon the general principles, without referring to the peculiar situation, power, and influence of the magicians of Egypt, the wizards and witches of the Jews, the oracles of the heathen, their necromancers, soothsayers, and astrologers, the maniacs or those possessed of devils in the Apostles' days, we will notice, and try to detect (so far as we have the Scriptures for our aid) some few instances of the development of false spirits in more modern times, and in this our day.   

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.208)

False Prophets   

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 The "French Prophets" were possessed of a spirit that deceived; they existed in Vivaris and Dauphany, in great numbers in the year 1688; there were many boys and girls from seven to twenty-five; they had strange fits, as in tremblings and faintings, which made them stretch out their legs and arms, as in a swoon; they remained awhile in trances, and coming out of them, uttered all that came in their mouths. [see Buck's Theological Dictionary]   
 Now God never had any prophets that acted in this way; there was nothing indecorous in the proceeding of the Lord's prophets in any age; neither had the apostles nor prophets in the apostles' day anything of this kind. Paul says, "Ye may all prophesy, one by one; and if anything be revealed to another let the first hold his peace, for the spirit of the prophets is subject to the prophets;" but here we find that the prophets are subject to the spirit, and falling down, have twitchings, tumblings, and faintings through the influence of that spirit, being entirely under its control. Paul says, "Let everything be done decently and in order," but here we find the greatest disorder and indecency in the conduct of both men and women, as above described. The same rule would apply to the fallings, twitchings, swoonings, shaking, and trances of many of our modern revivalists.   
 Johanna Southcott professed to be a prophetess, and wrote a book of prophecies in 1804, she became the founder of a people that are still extant. She was to bring forth, in a place appointed, a son, that was to be the Messiah, which thing has failed. Independent of this, however, where do we read of a woman that was the founder of a church, in the word of God? Paul told the women in his day, "To keep silence in the church, and that if they wished to know anything to ask their husbands at home;" he would not suffer a woman "to rule, or to usurp authority in the church;" but here we find a woman the founder of a church, the revelator and guide, the Alpha and Omega, contrary to all acknowledged rule, principle, and order.   
 Jemimah Wilkinson was another prophetess that figured largely in America, in the last century. She stated that she was taken sick and died, and that her soul went to heaven, where it still continues. Soon after, her body was reanimated with the spirit and power of Christ, upon which she set up as a public teacher, and declared that she had an immediate revelation. Now the Scriptures positively assert that "Christ is the firstfruit, afterwards those that are Christ's at His coming, then cometh the end." But Jemimah, according to her testimony, died, and rose again before the time mentioned in the Scriptures. The idea of her soul being in heaven while her body was [living] on earth, is also preposterous. When God breathed into man's nostrils, he became a living soul, before that he did not live, and when that was taken away his body died; and so did our Savior when the spirit left the body, nor did His body live until His spirit returned in the power of His resurrection. But Mrs. Wilkinson's soul [life] was in heaven, and her body without the soul [or life] on earth, living [without the soul, or] without life!   

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.208-209)

Irvingites   

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 The Irvingites are a people that have counterfeited the truth, perhaps the nearest of any of our modern sectarians. They commenced about ten years ago in the city of London, in England; they have churches formed in various parts of England and Scotland, and some few in Upper Canada. Mr. Irving, their founder, was a learned and talented minister of the Church of Scotland, he was a great logician, and a powerful orator, but withal wild and enthusiastic in his views. Moving in the higher circles, and possessing talent and zeal, placed him in a situation to become a conspicuous character, and to raise up a society similar to that which is called after his name.   
 The Irvingites have apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and angels. They profess to have the gift of tongues, and the interpretation of tongues, and, in some few instances, to have the gift of healing.    
 The first prophetic spirit that was manifested was in some Misses Campbell that Mr. Irving met with, while on a journey in Scotland; they had [what is termed among their sect] "utterances," which were evidently of a supernatural agency. Mr. Irving, falling into the common error of considering all supernatural manifestations to be of God, took them to London with him, and introduced them into his church.   
 They were there honored as the prophetesses of God, and when they spoke, Mr. Irving or any of his ministers had to keep silence. They were peculiarly wrought upon before the congregation, and had strange utterances, uttered with an unnatural, shrill voice, and with thrilling intonations they frequently made use of a few broken, unconnected sentences, that were ambiguous, incoherent, and incomprehensible; at other times they were more clearly understood. They would frequently cry out, "There is iniquity! There is iniquity!" And Mr. Irving has been led, under the influence of this charge, to fall down upon his knees before the public congregation, and to confess his sin, not knowing whether he had sinned, nor wherein, nor whether the thing referred to him or somebody else. During these operations, the bodies of the persons speaking were powerfully wrought upon, their countenances were distorted, they had frequent twitchings in their hands, and the whole system was powerfully convulsed at intervals: they sometimes, however, (it is supposed) spoke in correct tongues, and had true interpretations.    
 Under the influence of this spirit the church was organized by these women; apostles, prophets, etc., were soon called, and a systematic order of things introduced, as above mentioned. A Mr. Baxter (afterwards one of their principal prophets) upon going into one of their meetings, says, "I saw a power manifested, and thought that was the power of God, and asked that it might fall upon me, and it did so, and I began to prophesy." Eight or nine years ago they had about sixty preachers going through the streets of London, testifying that London was to be the place where the "two witnesses" spoken of by John, were to prophesy; that (they) the church and the spirit were the witnesses, and that at the end of three years and a half there was to be an earthquake and great destruction, and our Savior was to come. Their apostles were collected together at the appointed time watching the event, but Jesus did not come, and the prophecy was then ambiguously explained away. They frequently had signs given them by the spirit to prove to them that what was manifested to them should take place. Mr. Baxter related an impression that he had concerning a child. It was manifested to him that he should visit the child, and lay hands upon it, and that it should be healed; and to prove to him that this was of God, he should meet his brother in a certain place, who should speak unto him certain words. His brother addressed him precisely in the way and manner that the manifestation designated. The sign took place, but when he laid his hands upon the child it did not recover. I cannot vouch for the authority of the last statement, as Mr. Baxter at that time had left the Irvingites, but it is in accordance with many of their proceedings, and the thing never has been attempted to be denied.   
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   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.210-211)

All This Is Wrong   
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 It may be asked, where is there anything in all this that is wrong?   
 First. The church was organized by women, and God placed in the Church (first apostles, secondarily prophets,) and not first women; but Mr. Irving placed in his church first women (secondarily apostles,) and the church was founded and organized by them. A woman has no right to found or organize a church-God never sent them to do it.
   
 Second. Those women would speak in the midst of a meeting, and rebuke Mr. Irving or any of the church. Now the Scripture positively says, "Thou shalt not rebuke an Elder, but entreat him as a father;" not only this, but they frequently accused the brethren, thus placing themselves in the seat of Satan, who is emphatically called "the accuser of the brethren."   
 Third. Mr. Baxter received the spirit on asking for it, without attending to the ordinances, and began to prophesy, whereas the scriptural way of attaining the gift of the Holy Ghost is by baptism, and by laying on of hands.   
 Fourth. As we have stated in regard to others, the spirit of the prophets is subject to the prophets; but those prophets were subject to the spirits, the spirits controlling their bodies at pleasure.   
 But it may be asked how Mr. Baxter could get a sign from a second person? To this we would answer, that Mr. Baxter's brother was under the influence of the same spirit as himself, and being subject to that spirit he could be easily made to speak to Mr. Baxter whatever the spirit should dictate; but there was not power in the spirit to heal the child.   

   (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.212)

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by Art Bulla

Sun, May 15, 2011

The claims of the Reorganized Church of LDS analyzed. Key to detection of the "mysterious windings" of false spirits and illecit channel through which revelation to RLDS concerning "the reorganization": revelation received "through a woman" identifying OMS as Joseph III, according to testimony of two "Seventies" of RLDS on Van Hale's program Sunday. "It may be asked, where is there anything in all this that is wrong? First. The church was organized by women, and God placed in the Church (first apostles, secondarily prophets,) and not first women; but Mr. Irving placed in his church first women (secondarily apostles,) and the church was founded and organized by them. A woman has no right to found or organize a church-God never sent them to do it." (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.212) Evidently these Reorganites consider Joseph to be a fallen prophet in this matter also. Recording of my call into this program and confrontation with these two played. Joseph may have wavered on introducing polygamy to the Church for he saw the pograms of the beast (US) which would wear out the Saints. Finally commanded by an angel with a drawn sword to introduce. July 4, 1981 I laid hands on the corner-stone of the Temple to be built in Independence and uttered by divine command, prayer, dedicating the plot specified to the return of the Latter-Day-Saints. Hedrickites showed me documents foretelling of OMS. They believe that Joseph fell (which I consider blasphemous) out of jealousy of the OMS and his mission to redeem Zion But this revelation that Joseph never fell, but endured to the end: "And my servant Joseph, saith the Lord, did abide in me, even unto the end." Revelations of Jesus Christ, Sec 2: 22. I know Joseph never fell.

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The Testator, the Third Member of the Godhead Born Also
by Art Bulla

Testator or Holy Ghost, born. It was necessary that the third member of the Godhead also take upon himself mortality to fill the measure of his creation. This office of Testator is without beginning of days nor end of years, without father, mother, but the individual (Joseph Smith) who occupied that office for this earth from the foundation thereof begotten by parents who were mortal (since there is but one Only Begotten who is Jesus Christ).

The Revelations of Jesus Christ

Section 161

Thus saith the Lord, it was that Joseph, our beloved Joseph was the Testator born in the flesh, that he might also fulfill the measure of the sons of God, that he might fulfill the measure of his creation, because it is that spirit united with flesh and bones bringeth a fullness of joy.
2 And thus it was necessary that he whose splendor, radiance and intelligence was greater or equal to the other of our Father’s sons, even the Christ, with whom he is One forever and ever, saith the Father, yea, it was necessary that he be obedient unto the law and descend below all things, that he too might be in all things and through all things the light of truth, with the Father and His Christ, being clothed with flesh and blood, he did verily complete his mission.
3 And He lived for glory and verily died for glory, and sealed his testimony with his blood, that this word should become a law unto the Church forever, unchanging. He is the Holy Ghost, and this was his office, saith the Lord, before the world was organized.
4 Even so. Amen.

"Everlasting covenant between three personages...God the first, the Creator; God the second, the Redeemer; and God the third, the witness or Testator." Joseph Smith, TPJS p.190

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Testator or Holy Ghost, born.  It was necessary that the third member of the Godhead also take upon himself mortality to fill the measure of his creation.  This office of Testator is without beginning of days nor end of years, without father, mother, but the individual (Joseph Smith) who occupied that office for this earth from the foundation thereof begotten by parents who were mortal (since there is but one Only Begotten who is Jesus Christ). 

The Revelations of Jesus Christ

Section 161

 

1 Thus saith the Lord, it was that Joseph, our beloved Joseph was the Testator born in the flesh, that he might also fulfill the measure of the sons of God, that he might fulfill the measure of his creation, because it is that spirit united with flesh and bones bringeth a fullness of joy.
2 And thus it was necessary that he whose splendor, radiance and intelligence was greater or equal to the other of our Father’s sons, even the Christ, with whom he is One forever and ever, saith the Father, yea, it was necessary that he be obedient unto the law and descend below all things, that he too might be in all things and through all things the light of truth, with the Father and His Christ, being clothed with flesh and blood, he did verily complete his mission.
3 And He lived for glory and verily died for glory, and sealed his testimony with his blood, that this word should become a law unto the Church forever, unchanging. He is the Holy Ghost, and this was his office, saith the Lord, before the world was organized.
4 Even so. Amen.

 "Everlasting covenant was made between three personages before the organization of this earth, and relates to their dispensation of things to men on the earth; these personages, according to Abraham's record, are called God the first, the Creator; God the second, the Redeemer; and God the third, the witness or Testator."    (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith, p.190)

From Lecture No. 2, Lectures on True Doctrine by Art Bulla:

The law of light: ‘‘The light which is in all
things, which giveth life to all things, which
is the law by which all things are governed,
even the power of God who sitteth upon his
throne, who is in the bosom of eternity, who
is in the midst of all things.’’ D&C 88:13.

‘‘To the law and the testimony, if it be not
according to these, it is because there is no
light in them.’’ Isaiah 8:20.

What is meant by the testimony? Answer:
the testimony requires a testator. A testator
is one who testifies of the light. Either his
testimony is true or it is false. A false
testimony will not edify and thus give life
and light and also may be detected by its
conflicting with former testimonies which
are valid and already in force. What is
necessary for a testimony to be a law unto
the Church, and thus in force? Thus saith
the Lord, it requires the blood of my servants
the prophets to be shed to seal their testimony
for all time and all eternity. Thus anything
which contradicteth these my servants the
testators is false, for I will not vary from that
which I have said. This is known as the law
or the testament, whether it be new or old,
it mattereth not, for they testify of me, the
light and the life of the world, and I change
not, but am the same, yesterday, today and
forever.

‘‘The testators are now dead, and their
testament is in force.’’ D&C 135:5.

‘‘For where a testament is, there must also
of necessity be the death of the testator. For
a testament is of force after men are dead:
Otherwise it is of no strength at all while the
testator liveth.’’ Hebrews 9:16-17.

‘‘We are told that the living oracles take
precedence over all other authority, living
or dead. We agree that the living oracles
take precedence, provided they do not
conflict with the dead oracles. ‘To the law
and the testimony if they speak not according
to this word it is because there is no light in
them.’ Isaiah 8:20. If it is true that the living
oracles take precedence over all others
regardless of their disagreements with the
dead prophets, then the Saints must
necessarily change their faith every time
there is a change in the presidency, to
conform to the views of the new president.’’
Bishop Heber Bennion, Gospel Problems,
p. 6.

‘‘By request of President Brigham Young,
the Seventies and their Presidents met at
their Hall, at early candle light. Elder Orson
Pratt addressed the conference in relation
to the present organization of the Church
and quorums in particular. Revelation, said
he, had been given for the is purpose,
several years ago, that when the testator
should be removed then the Testament
might be introduced and become a law
unto this Church, that every member
may understand precisely the duties of
his office and calling. He also explained
the duties of both High Priests and Seventies
which are as follows: The Seventies are
called and set apart to be swift messengers
to the nations of the earth having power to
introduce the gospel wherever they may be
sent, holding the keys of this kingdom...’’
Orson Pratt, Nauvoo Period Record, Book
B, p. 31.

‘‘God has said he does not change; he is the
same, yesterday, today, and forever. Neither
does his gospel change. His requirements
for salvation are the same today as they
were in the days of the Apostles. Therefore,
his Church must be the same in
organization, in doctrine, in divine
authority.’’ Pamphlet Published by the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-
Saints.

Changes from the Testament in Force:
Changes were made from the order
established by the testators (Paul, Peter,
James, John, Jesus, Brigham Young, Parley
P. Pratt, Joseph Smith) which resulted in
what is known as the Great Apostasy. What
authority places the ‘‘modern’’ Church
above the law of the Lord, except that of the
usurper? Therefore we detect and testify
these are false prophets.

‘‘Though we, or an angel from heaven
preach any other gospel unto you than that
which we have preached unto you, let him
be accursed.’’ Galatians 1:8.

THE
REVELATIONS OF JESUS CHRIST
SECTION 161.

Revelation Received August 2, 1989, Provo,
Utah, Concerning Joseph the Seer in the
Flesh, was none other than the Testator, the
Third Member of the Godhead, Saith the
Lord, and This From Before the Foundation
of the World.

1 Thus saith the Lord, it was that Joseph, our
beloved Joseph was the Testator born in the
flesh, that he might also fulfill the measure
of the sons of God, that he might fulfill the
measure of his creation, because it is that
spirit united with flesh and bones bringeth
a fullness of joy.
2 And thus it was necessary that he whose
splendor, radiance and intelligence was
greater or equal to the other of our Father’s
sons, even the Christ, with whom he is One
forever and ever, saith the Father, yea, it
was necessary that he be obedient unto the
law and descend below all things, that he
too might be in all things and through all
things the light of truth, with the Father and
His Christ, being clothed with flesh and
blood, he did verily complete his mission.
3 And He lived for glory and verily died
for glory, and sealed his testimony with his
blood, that this word should become a law
unto the Church forever, unchanging. He
is the Holy Ghost, and this was his office,
saith the Lord, before the world was
organized.
4 Even so. Amen.

Important: Bear Testimony of the Testator,
that Joseph Smith is the Holy Ghost (an
office in the Priesthood), or Testator of the
Father and the Son, that is His office which
he held before the world was made, that He
is, was and always will be the third member
of the God head, none other than the Holy
Ghost for this world, only, there being
higher orders, or Kingdoms, through which
power is administered, saith the Lord, Adam,
our Father being placed in the Garden of
Eden by His Father, our Grandfather, Cain
and abel being more or less acquainted
with their Grandfather, saith the Lord, and
Adam’s Christ or Jehovah helped him in
organizing our world out of chaotic matter,
saith the Father. Our Christ, Jesus, if we
are faithful will help us in the same manner
to organize a world with which our spirit
children shall dwell thereon, and we shall
become Adams and Eves. And thus the
work of creation, is it not endless?
It required the death of the Testator, that
the Doctrine and Covenants be a law unto
the Church forever, that His testament be
thus in force, unchangeable forever and
ever, worlds without end, and no Kimball,
Apostate or devil can contradict or do
away with it, saith my Father.

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  • "He that can mark the power of Omnipotence, inscribed upon the heavens, can also see God's own handwriting in the sacred volume: and he who reads it oftenest will like it best, and he who is acquainted with it, will know the hand wherever he can see it...." (T.P.J.S., p. 56)

·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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  • "But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?"  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Two 1834-37 Pg.60
  •  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 Pg.365
       When a man goes about prophesying, and commands men to obey his teachings, he must either be a true or false prophet.
     
  •  Our website: http://www.artbulla.com
  •  "All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God."  Joseph Smith; TPJS p. 376
  • "He that can mark the power of Omnipotence, inscribed upon the heavens, can also see God's own handwriting in the sacred volume: and he who reads it oftenest will like it best, and he who is acquainted with it, will know the hand wherever he can see it...." (T.P.J.S., p. 56)

·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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Wednesday, May 11, 2011

The 1886 Revelation and Lies of Cultural Sectarian Mormons

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Tue, May 10, 2011

The 1886 Revelation

REVELATION TO JOHN TAYLOR, SEPT. 26, 1886:

  My son John, you have asked me concerning the New and Everlasting Covenant, how far it is binding upon my people. Thus saith the Lord, All commandments that I give must be obeyed by those calling themselves by my name unless they are revoked by me or by my authority, And how can I revoke an everlasting covenant; for I the Lord am everlasting and my everlasting covenants cannot be abrogated nor done away with; but they stand forever. Have I not given my word in great plainness on this subject? Yet have not great numbers of my people been negligent in the observance of my law and the keeping of my commandments? and yet have I borne with them these many years... Nevertheless, I the Lord do not change, and my word and my law do not. And as I have heretofore said by my servant Joseph, All those who would enter into my glory must and shall obey my law, and have I not commanded men that if they were Abraham’s seed and would enter into my glory, they must do the works of  Abraham? I have not revoked this law, nor will I, for it is everlasting, and those who will enter into my glory must obey the conditions thereof, even so, Amen.

 I might give here, an explanation of my coming in contact with the book mentioned above.  One day in Spring of 1974, while attending Brigham Young University I took a required class on the Book of Mormon taught by George W. Pace, held in the Joseph Smith auditorium.  George, whom I admired greatly at the time, used this classroom as an opportunity to instill in young attendees, what is known as a "testimony" of the precepts and principles of the Gospel.  He at this class meeting had a "question and answer period" in which students were encouraged to ask questions on theology which puzzled them or otherwise mystified them.  After several questions had been asked and answered by Bro. Pace, a returned missionary stood up in the back of the auditorium, which had an echo, and asked in the loud voice, "While I was on my mission in ___________ (I can't remember the place) some anti-Mormons gave us literature which quoted Brigham Young teaching that Adam was God.  Would you please tell me if this is true, and if Brigham Young taught this, was he wrong?"  Bro. Pace paused a moment before replying and answered:  "The documents are in Special Collections on the fifth floor of the Harold B. Lee Library (which was right next door to the Joseph Smith auditorium).  I urge you to go up and read the documents for yourself and make your own judgment."  This created a hue and cry of astonishment from the class, and this was only my second time that I had heard the Adam-God theory mentioned.  I waited for everyone to file out of the auditorium and left to myself, alone, I raised my voice to God asking Him on the subject.  Whereupon I was seized upon by the almighty Power and Spirit of God which descended upon me, and I was almost physically picked up and carried by the Spirit to the Harold B. Lee library, to the fifth floor, I think it was, but right over to the bookshelf where this book Keys to the Priesthood Illustrated by Lyn L and Stephen L. Bishop of Draper, Utah was located.  I immediately checked it out, carried it home and began to read.  A spirit of fear then came upon me, that I was being deceived, so I took the book back and to the librarian on that floor I protested that such "apostate literature" could be had in this of all libraries!  Later I have been revealed in too numerous instances to mention the veracity of almost every detail of the book.  So when I borrow from it you can have my recommendation that these things are verily true and no twisting of the facts have occurred by these authors, whom I thank gratefully for their labor and sacrifice in bringing these things to light.  There is one severe caveat, as per revelation to me that the conclusion of this book, that there is an "Indian Prophet" who will set in order the house of God is completely inaccurate and is false doctrine, saith the Lord.  So, even out of the "best books" one must have revelation to guide him or he will fall into grievous errors and perish.  "The hand, the eye, the senses may all be deceived, but the spirit of God cannot be deceived, and when a man is filled with that spirit, he knows that which is beyond the power of any man to controvert."  Brigham Young.

Apostle Matthias Cowley:
‘‘Brother Penrose told me once in the city of Mexico, that he had written the manifesto, and it was gotten up so that it did not mean anything and President Smith told me the same. I mention these things only to show the training I have had from those over me.’’ Minutes of Council of Twelve Meeting concerning fellowship of the same.

‘‘A sister in Bristol, England, who was procrastinating baptism because of her lack of testimony of the truth of plural marriage, of a sudden accepted baptism, explaining that she had received an answer from God on the subject. She explained that an audible voice from the Lord said, ‘that Plural Marriage is true and was instituted from before the foundation of the world.’’’ Diary of Elder Thomas Rosser.

‘‘Upon hearing this, Brother Smith and I left, rejoicing because of the testimony she had borne to us. ...On Monday morning, the 25th of May our Conference Priesthood Meeting was held...After the preliminary exercises, President Charles W. Penrose asked if any of the brethren had any questions...I said, ‘I have heard much discussion on the Principle of Plural Marriage, some saying that it is withdrawn from the earth and that the Manifesto was a revelation from God. Dear President, what about this case?’ Then I related to him the testimony of the Sister, which is written above, and then I asked him, ‘Why should she receive this testimony if God has withdrawn that principle from the earth, and the Manifesto is a true revelation from God? ‘‘President Penrose then rose to his feet, scratched the side of his head with his right hand for a moment or so, then stretched out his right hand toward us and said: ‘Brethren, I will answer that question, if you will keep it under your hats. I, Charles W. Penrose wrote the manifesto with the assistance of Frank J.
Cannon and John White. It’s no revelation from God, for I wrote it. Wilford Woodruff signed it to beat the devil at his own game. Brethren how can God withdraw an everlasting principle from the earth? He has not, and cannot, and I testify to you as a servant of God that this is true. Is the Manifesto A Revelation?, R.C. Newson, 7-8. (taken from Keys of the Priesthood Illustrated; Lynn. L. and Stephen L. Bishop, p.204.)

I, Art Bulla, testify that the Holy Ghost has borne unto me that the foregoing testimonies are true.

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The Manifesto

(This is what the Mormons are told by their corrupt leadership is the "revelation from God" suspending polygamy.)

Reading the manifesto shows that it is manifestly from man, not from God, as proven by the language contained therein: 

To Whom It May Concern: (Would an Omnipotent Deity speak thus?)

"Press dispatches having been sent for political purposes, from Salt Lake City, which have been widely published, to the effect that the Utah Commission in their recent report to the Secretary of the Interior, allege that plural marriages are still being solemnized and that 40 or more such marriages have been contracted in Utah since last June or during the past year, also that in public discourses the leaders of the Church have taught, encouraged and urged the continuance of the practice of polygamy- I, therefor, as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints, do hereby, in the most solemn manner declare that these charges are false. We are not teaching polygamy or plural marriage, nor permitting any person to enter into this practice...’’

‘‘But this much I know from the lips of my Aunt Nellie. She was going to her work at the temple one morning, right after this new declaration on plural marriage that they issued, I think in 1933; and I believe it was when J. Reuben Clark first came into the Presidency-about that time--denouncing this thing anew. And she met Joseph Fielding Smith, and they stopped and chatted a few minutes, and she said, ‘Brother Smith, I’m very much surprised at that statement in the paper this morning.’ And he said, ‘How so, Sister Taylor?’
‘Well’, she said, ‘You surely know about that revelation.’ He said, ‘do you know about that revelation, Sister Taylor?’ She said, ‘Why, certainly.’ ‘Do you know where such a revelation might be?’ She said, ‘Yes.’ And he said, ‘Well, Sister Taylor, you would confer a great favor upon the Church if you would bring that to me as Church Historian.’ and she said, ‘Well, I’ll see what can be done about it.’ ‘‘So she went over to the Templeton Building soon after to see Uncle Frank Y. Taylor (President of the Granite Stake for 25 or 30 years), and she told him of this experience. She said, ‘Uncle Frank, perhaps we’d better get that revelation and give it to Brother Smith.’ And he said, ‘Well, I’ll think about it and see about it, Nellie, and let you know.’ ‘‘Well time went on--I don’t know just how much, maybe a few weeks, maybe a month or two--and she met Brother Smith again. And he said, ‘Sister Taylor, you haven’t fulfilled that assignment I gave you.’ And she said, ‘Haven’t I? I thought I had. I did what I could at the time.’ He said, ‘No, that has never come into my hands.’ So she said, ‘Well, I’ll see about it again.’ So she went back to Frank Y. Taylor, who was a full brother of John W. and she said, ‘Uncle Frank, Joseph Fielding Smith spoke to me again about that revelation.’ And he said, ‘Well I’ll take care of it.’ So she left it that way.
  In a few days he came to her and said,‘I’m going to tell you the final chapter on that situation. I went to Rodney Badger, who was at one time in the Church Bank and had been given this revelation (as I understand) by John W. Taylor for safe keeping. I think they were brother-inlaw, or something. So he had put that in a safety deposit box and kept it there. He got it out and gave it to Frank Y. Taylor.
After Brother Taylor had it in his hands, he got to thinking; and he thought, ‘Well, I don’t believe that it’s proper to give this to the Church Historian. I think I should take it to the Prophet himself.’ So he took it in to President Heber J. Grant.
They had been boys together and close friends on up through the years, and he said: ‘Heber, was my Father a Prophet of the Lord?’ ‘Why Frank, why do you ask that? Of course he was. We all know that.’ And he said, ‘Would you recognize the handwriting of my Father?’ He said, ‘Yes I would know your Father’s handwriting well.’ So he passed this out and said, ‘I want you to read that (1886 Revelation), and tell me if that’s in the handwriting of my Father.’ Well he did and President Grant said, ‘Well, it certainly is the handwriting of your Father-I know that as well as I know anything.’ And Frank Taylor asked, ‘How do you expect to get around that?’ he said, ‘I don’t expect to get around it.’ ‘Well then, Heber, if I were you, I would be very careful with what I said.’ Private Interview with a Niece of Nellie Taylor; Transcript in Possession of Lynn and Stephen Bishop of Draper, Utah.

Heber J. Grant’s carefully worded denial that Frank and Nellie Taylor were referring: ‘‘It is alleged that on Sept. 26, 1886, President John Taylor received a revelation from the Lord, the purported text of which is given in a publication circulated apparently by or at the instance of this same organization. As to this pretended revelation it should be said that the archives contain no record of any such revelation, nor any evidence justifying a belief that any such revelation, nor any evidence justifying a belief that any such revelation was ever given.
From the personal knowledge of some of us, from the uniform and common recollection of the presiding quorums of the Church, from the absence in the Church Archives (it is in a vault in the First Presidency Office, not the Archives) of any evidence whatsoever justifying any belief that any such revelation was given, we are justified in affirming that no such revelation exists. Deseret News; June 17, 1933; p.4.


What BYU Scholars Have Said Concerning 1886 Revelation:
‘‘The family of John Taylor claims that the revelation referred to above was found in the prophet-leader’s papers and the original was given to the Church Historian. Since that time it has not been available to the public and the ChurchHistorian allegedly has declared that it is not in the Church Historian’s Library.
However Dean Jesse concluded in his study that it is highly probable that such a revelation does exist.’’

Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought; Autumn, 1970, pg. 15, footnote 10.

Minutes of the Church Trial of John W. Taylor: ‘‘The date of this Revelation is Sept. 1886, four years before the Manifesto of President Woodruff and I remember at that time that President Taylor and all his brethren were very strongly entrenched in the principle of plural marriage. From 1880-1890 men were almost commanded to enter it, especially the officials of the Church...’’ Published Minutes of John W. Taylor’s Church Trial.

Quote from John Taylor:


John Taylor's Watch

John Taylor's watch was struck with a ball
which saved his life,
fired in Carthage Jail when he and others were
attacked by the mob that killed Joseph Smith.

‘‘God has given me a revelation in regard to celestial marriage, I did not make it...Yet they would like us to tone that principle down, and change it, and make it applicable to the views of the day.  Yet they would like us to tone that principle down, and change it, and make it applicable to the views of the day.’’  This we cannot do, nor can we interfere with any of the commandments of god to meet the persuasions and behest of men. I cannot do it  and will not do it. I find some men trying to twist round the principle in any way and every way they can. They want to sneak out of it in some way. Now, God doesn’t want any sycophancy like that. He expects us to be true to Him and the principles he has delivered, and to feel as Job did, ‘Though he slay me, yet will I trust him.’ ...These are our feelings in relation to this matter. We have been told that, ‘It is not meet that men who will not abide my law shall preside over my priesthood’,  and yet some people would like very much to do it. Well they cannot do it. If God has introduced something for our glory and exaltation, we are not going to have that kicked over by improper influences), neither inside or outside of the Church of the living God.’’ John Taylor, JD 25:309.

‘‘They’’ now hold the balance of power in the Church, saith the Lord, for ‘‘they’’ are still changing the principles to apply them to the ‘‘views of the day’’, which ‘‘they’’ have the temerity to call ‘‘progressive revelation’’! What is ‘‘progressive’’ about being damned and cut off, I ask?

 
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  • "But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?"  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Two 1834-37 Pg.60
  •  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 Pg.365
       When a man goes about prophesying, and commands men to obey his teachings, he must either be a true or false prophet.
     
  •  Our website: http://www.artbulla.com
  •  "All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God."  Joseph Smith; TPJS p. 376
  • "He that can mark the power of Omnipotence, inscribed upon the heavens, can also see God's own handwriting in the sacred volume: and he who reads it oftenest will like it best, and he who is acquainted with it, will know the hand wherever he can see it...." (T.P.J.S., p. 56)

·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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