Debate on Mormon Newsgroup Concerning Ken Ham
Art Bulla View profile More options Apr 30 2005, 11:52 pm
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I disagree with Ken Hom on dinosaurs. You see I know that Adam and Eve were transplanted from another planet, here into a garden and the former creation was made desolate. This Ken Ham does not believe. But I receive all truth no matter from where it comes and I discard error, for I have taken the Holy Ghost for my guide.
--
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the context of the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and foul wretches imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see that I am justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him. Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the Lord your God.
Manning is as mendacious about not being a queer as Ward Churchill is about being an Indian. Typical of the delusional left. Not moored in truth or reality.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS: Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand." Dr.Samuel Johnson.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68 As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229, George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall be sent away, and shall not inherit the land. 36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim, wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
Kevin Z View profile More options May 1 2005, 9:11 am
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From: Kevin Z
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:11:14 -0600
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RetroProphet wrote: "Dinosaurs and the Bible" by Ken Ham A critique by Michael Suttkus http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/dinos_and_bible_suttkus.htm
Wow, I can't imagine why anyone would go so far to prove a seven day creation concept. To throw science out the widow, completely, is absurd.
If you use a simple concept..... Seven periods of time. Everything works out, and science does not conflict with Religion
Dinosaurs were a part of building up the earth for us to live on. What or why is speculation, when they weren't necessary anymore, they were removed.
I prefer to look at it as controlled, or guided evolution.
Art Bulla View profile More options May 1 2005, 9:32 am
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I do not take Ken Ham's theological position on the creation, you know it. His theology replacing evolution is in some degree incorrect. Adam and Eve did not evolve, controlled or otherwise and you have brought a curse upon yourself because of this gentile idiocy. Adam and Eve were brought here from another earth, having been resurrected off that earth by the Eloheim (the Gods). Evolution is completely wrong. In this Ken Ham and I agree. So I use scholarly treatises published from that web site to conveniently discourage the evolutionary religionists from their false religion. Brigham Young and Joseph Smith taught the correct science. Evolutionism in any form is blasphemy, saith the Lord, and produces this point of view among the Mormons that eternal truths change according to circumstances. In other words if Jimmuh Carter and the IRS threaten to persecute the money changers in the Mormon Church, then they conveniently abandon inviolable truth to "get along" with the gentiles.
--
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the context of the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and foul wretches imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see that I am justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him. Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the Lord your God.
Manning is as mendacious about not being a queer as Ward Churchill is about being an Indian. Typical of the delusional left. Not moored in truth or reality.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS: Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand." Dr.Samuel Johnson.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68 As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229, George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall be sent away, and shall not inherit the land. 36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim, wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
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RetroProphet wrote:
"Dinosaurs and the Bible" by Ken Ham A critique by Michael Suttkus http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/dinos_and_bible_suttkus.htm
Wow, I can't imagine why anyone would go so far to prove a seven day creation concept. To throw science out the widow, completely, is absurd.
If you use a simple concept..... Seven periods of time. Everything works out, and science does not conflict with Religion
Dinosaurs were a part of building up the earth for us to live on. What or why is speculation, when they weren't necessary anymore, they were removed.
I prefer to look at it as controlled, or guided evolution.
Unruly Human View profile More options May 2 2005, 12:10 am
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Art Bulla wrote: I disagree with Ken Hom on dinosaurs. You see I know that Adam and Eve were transplanted from another planet, here into a garden and the former creation was made desolate. This Ken Ham does not believe. But I receive all truth no matter from where it comes and I discard error, for I have taken the Holy Ghost for my guide.
LOL
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Jong Kim View profile More options May 2 2005, 6:15 am
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RetroProphet wrote:
"Dinosaurs and the Bible" by Ken Ham A critique by Michael Suttkus http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/dinos_and_bible_suttkus.htm
Wow, I can't imagine why anyone would go so far to prove a seven day creation concept. To throw science out the widow, completely, is absurd.
If you use a simple concept..... Seven periods of time. Everything works out, and science does not conflict with Religion
Dinosaurs were a part of building up the earth for us to live on. What or why is speculation, when they weren't necessary anymore, they were removed.
I prefer to look at it as controlled, or guided evolution.
An amazing admission from Kevin Zoellner, that he's an Evolutionist. He was a closet Evolutionist after all! In a way, he and John Manning have much in common. Art Bulla is once again proven right, that the wicked professing Christ also believe in Evolution, not in God.
"Adam came into the garden with a celestial body, which had been resurrected from an older earth. He and Eve, one of his wives, along with plants and animals were brought here by his Father and his Jehovah and planted in a garden eastward in Eden after the former creation had been made desolate, saith the Lord, by a mighty convulsion, hence the fossils in the ground, but we are not descended from them." Received by Art Bulla the One Mighty and Strong.
--
The Revelations of Jesus Christ: http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
http://www.artbulla.com
Jong Kim
Art Bulla View profile More options May 2 2005, 12:51 pm
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From: "Art Bulla"
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"It is the disposition of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand." Dr.Samuel Johnson.
--
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the context of the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and foul wretches imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see that I am justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him. Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the Lord your God.
Manning is as mendacious about not being a queer as Ward Churchill is about being an Indian. Typical of the delusional left. Not moored in truth or reality.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS: Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68 As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229, George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall be sent away, and shall not inherit the land. 36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim, wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
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I disagree with Ken Hom on dinosaurs. You see I know that Adam and Eve were transplanted from another planet, here into a garden and the former creation was made desolate. This Ken Ham does not believe. But I receive all truth no matter from where it comes and I discard error, for I have taken the Holy Ghost for my guide.
--
D1 Don Marchant Think Global, Act Loco
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From: "Art Bulla"
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:52:27 -0700
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I disagree with Ken Hom on dinosaurs. You see I know that Adam and Eve were transplanted from another planet, here into a garden and the former creation was made desolate. This Ken Ham does not believe. But I receive all truth no matter from where it comes and I discard error, for I have taken the Holy Ghost for my guide.
--
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the context of the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and foul wretches imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see that I am justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him. Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the Lord your God.
Manning is as mendacious about not being a queer as Ward Churchill is about being an Indian. Typical of the delusional left. Not moored in truth or reality.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS: Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand." Dr.Samuel Johnson.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68 As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229, George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall be sent away, and shall not inherit the land. 36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim, wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
Kevin Z View profile More options May 1 2005, 9:11 am
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RetroProphet wrote: "Dinosaurs and the Bible" by Ken Ham A critique by Michael Suttkus http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/dinos_and_bible_suttkus.htm
Wow, I can't imagine why anyone would go so far to prove a seven day creation concept. To throw science out the widow, completely, is absurd.
If you use a simple concept..... Seven periods of time. Everything works out, and science does not conflict with Religion
Dinosaurs were a part of building up the earth for us to live on. What or why is speculation, when they weren't necessary anymore, they were removed.
I prefer to look at it as controlled, or guided evolution.
Art Bulla View profile More options May 1 2005, 9:32 am
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I do not take Ken Ham's theological position on the creation, you know it. His theology replacing evolution is in some degree incorrect. Adam and Eve did not evolve, controlled or otherwise and you have brought a curse upon yourself because of this gentile idiocy. Adam and Eve were brought here from another earth, having been resurrected off that earth by the Eloheim (the Gods). Evolution is completely wrong. In this Ken Ham and I agree. So I use scholarly treatises published from that web site to conveniently discourage the evolutionary religionists from their false religion. Brigham Young and Joseph Smith taught the correct science. Evolutionism in any form is blasphemy, saith the Lord, and produces this point of view among the Mormons that eternal truths change according to circumstances. In other words if Jimmuh Carter and the IRS threaten to persecute the money changers in the Mormon Church, then they conveniently abandon inviolable truth to "get along" with the gentiles.
--
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the context of the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and foul wretches imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see that I am justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him. Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the Lord your God.
Manning is as mendacious about not being a queer as Ward Churchill is about being an Indian. Typical of the delusional left. Not moored in truth or reality.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS: Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand." Dr.Samuel Johnson.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68 As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229, George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall be sent away, and shall not inherit the land. 36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim, wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
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RetroProphet wrote:
"Dinosaurs and the Bible" by Ken Ham A critique by Michael Suttkus http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/dinos_and_bible_suttkus.htm
Wow, I can't imagine why anyone would go so far to prove a seven day creation concept. To throw science out the widow, completely, is absurd.
If you use a simple concept..... Seven periods of time. Everything works out, and science does not conflict with Religion
Dinosaurs were a part of building up the earth for us to live on. What or why is speculation, when they weren't necessary anymore, they were removed.
I prefer to look at it as controlled, or guided evolution.
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Art Bulla wrote: I disagree with Ken Hom on dinosaurs. You see I know that Adam and Eve were transplanted from another planet, here into a garden and the former creation was made desolate. This Ken Ham does not believe. But I receive all truth no matter from where it comes and I discard error, for I have taken the Holy Ghost for my guide.
LOL
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RetroProphet wrote:
"Dinosaurs and the Bible" by Ken Ham A critique by Michael Suttkus http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/dinos_and_bible_suttkus.htm
Wow, I can't imagine why anyone would go so far to prove a seven day creation concept. To throw science out the widow, completely, is absurd.
If you use a simple concept..... Seven periods of time. Everything works out, and science does not conflict with Religion
Dinosaurs were a part of building up the earth for us to live on. What or why is speculation, when they weren't necessary anymore, they were removed.
I prefer to look at it as controlled, or guided evolution.
An amazing admission from Kevin Zoellner, that he's an Evolutionist. He was a closet Evolutionist after all! In a way, he and John Manning have much in common. Art Bulla is once again proven right, that the wicked professing Christ also believe in Evolution, not in God.
"Adam came into the garden with a celestial body, which had been resurrected from an older earth. He and Eve, one of his wives, along with plants and animals were brought here by his Father and his Jehovah and planted in a garden eastward in Eden after the former creation had been made desolate, saith the Lord, by a mighty convulsion, hence the fossils in the ground, but we are not descended from them." Received by Art Bulla the One Mighty and Strong.
--
The Revelations of Jesus Christ: http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
http://www.artbulla.com
Jong Kim
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"It is the disposition of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand." Dr.Samuel Johnson.
--
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the context of the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and foul wretches imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see that I am justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him. Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the Lord your God.
Manning is as mendacious about not being a queer as Ward Churchill is about being an Indian. Typical of the delusional left. Not moored in truth or reality.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS: Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68 As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229, George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall be sent away, and shall not inherit the land. 36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim, wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
"Unruly Human"
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I disagree with Ken Hom on dinosaurs. You see I know that Adam and Eve were transplanted from another planet, here into a garden and the former creation was made desolate. This Ken Ham does not believe. But I receive all truth no matter from where it comes and I discard error, for I have taken the Holy Ghost for my guide.
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D1 Don Marchant Think Global, Act Loco
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