Monday, January 24, 2011

Call Out of Shawn McCrady and Titles and Offices of the Gods in the Eternal Worlds

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Original Air Date: January 23, 2011

Call Out of Shawn McCrady and Titles of the Gods

Art Bulla on air called Shawn McCrady's contact no. and challenged him to debate. McCrady a self-confessed laughing "wild man", and former communist, dilitant extrodinaire, the spoiled product of a typical permissive matriarchal Mormon
environment, as a teenager practiced great wickedness, went on a mission, but never repented but covered this evil heart of unbelief and predation against godliness, as a wolf in sheep's clothing, received strong delusion from the devil at the behest of a minister of the devil, who then was emboldened to threw off all pretense, coming out as an anti-Christ, the reprobate he always was, now proclaiming his vision from the devil that the law and the testimony is now superfluous, and all religious affliliation is now superfluous, even the name of Jesus Christ is superfluous, etc, no Apostles, no order in the house of God, non-existent in order that he may assuage his gnawing guilt by doing away with all law and justice to raise his head brazenly in iniquity and becoming a traitor to the brethren, denying the Everlasting Covenant. I predict this son of perdition will not respond to my challenge but hide in the dark as all such do, because their deeds are evil.

offices and calling of the Gods. It is the office that created the worlds, not the personage assigned to that office for this earth, saith the Lord. Reading from Joseph Musser's great work: "Michael Our Father and Our God": "The difference between the individual and the office held by the individual, when properly understood, provides a true key. “God” is a title, an office...the being who occupies this office of God is an exalted man. The office of “God” has always existed and always will exist. It, the office, is without “beginning of days or end of years.” Those now occupying the office of “God, are not without “beginning of days or end of years.” Their creation as organized entities had a beginning".


The difference between the individual and the office

held by the individual, when properly understood,

provides a true key to the situation.

“God” is a title, an office - a principle; and yet the being

who occupies this office of God is an exalted man. The office of

“God” has always existed and always will exist. It, the office, is

without “beginning of days or end of years.” Those now

occupying the office of “God,” whether to this or other planets,

are not, in their organized capacities, without “beginning of days

or end of years.” Their creation as organized entities had a

beginning, and their existence in their mortal state will have an

end. “Christ,” “Redeemer,” “Savior,” “Messiah,” etc., are also

offices and titles. The office of “Christ” is co-existent with that

of “God.” One is the complement of the other; the two work

conjointly, and each is necessary to the other.

With the office of “God” and “Christ” is associated the

office of “Holy Ghost.” This trinity, properly organized, presides

over the earth. Each inhabited planet or group of planets has such

a Presidency.

“Pharaoh,” a ruling office in Egypt since shortly after the

flood, still exists as an office. The meaning of Pharaoh is “Great

House,” and is in reality a king. We speak of Pharaoh, in the day

of Joseph, as an individual, but the Pharaoh of Joseph's day who

made Joseph Governor of Egypt, was removed by several

generations from the Pharaoh of Moses’ time. The first wrought

righteousness while the latter was destroyed through his

wickedness. Viewed in any other light than that of a title, or

office, the term “Pharaoh” furnishes an inconsistency similar to

that which the scriptures disclose regarding “God.” “Now there

arose up a new king (new Pharaoh) over Egypt, which knew not


18 And so it is with the titles “Caesar,” “Emperor,”

“King,” “Czar,” “President,” etc. It was the “President” (of the

United States) who sent an army against the Saints in Utah, and

it was also the “President” who befriended the Mormons,

granting them amnesty, returning their escheated property, and

another using his influence against the unseating of a Mormon

Senator in the U.S. Congress. It was the “President” of the

18 Exodus 1:8.

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United States who did this, and yet the acts mentioned involved

the acts of three separate individuals, each occupying the office

of “President,” but at different times.

So also exist different offices in the creation and

government of worlds. God is known by various titles, such as

“Michael,” “Jehovah,” “Elohim,” “Father,” “I Am,” “Man of

Holiness,” “Ahman,” etc. In the term “Elohim,” we speak of the

head God, “God Almighty,” the “Council of Gods,” either as

pertaining to earth or to other planets. “Elohim” may also mean

the “Father,” “Grandfather.” It is the first name in the celestial

trinity. “Jehovah” signifies “Son,” and is also referred to as

“Jehovah God,” “Jehovah Christ,” “Father,” etc. Jehovah

occupies the second place in the trinity. “Michael” means “One

like God,” also “Prince,” “Archangel,” “Ancient of Days,”

“Adam,” etc. “Adam” is first man, as “Eve” is first woman or the

mother of all living. These are titles or offices, as are “Elias,”

“Elijah,” and “Messiah.” Each earth is populated by an Adam

and an Eve, with the aid of their descendants. True, these offices

as pertaining to Godhood are frequently used interchangeably,

much in the same light as we refer to the Church and Kingdom

of God. Specifically there is a Church of God and there is also a

Kingdom of God, each having a separate organized identity.

Then there is “Lucifer,” another title or office, also called

“Devil,” “Adversary,” “Satan,” etc.

These and numerous other offices and positions are

eternal in their nature and necessary to the creation, population

and government of planets. On this subject of titles and names,

the late Dr. James E. Talmage, in his book, “Jesus the Christ,”

pp. 35-6, explains:

Christ is a sacred title, and not an ordinary appelation or

common name; it is of Greek derivation, and in meaning

is identical with its Hebrew equivalent Messiah, or

Messias, signifying the Annointed One. Other titles, each

possessing a definite meaning, such as Emmanuel,

Savior, Redeemer, Only Begotten Son, Lord, Son of

God, Son of Man, and many more, are of scriptural

occurrence; the fact of main present importance to us is

that these several titles are expressive of our Lord's

divine origin and Godship. As seen, the essential names

or titles of Jesus the Christ were made known before His

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birth, and were revealed to Prophets who preceded Him

in the mortal state.

Jehovah is the Anglicized rendering of the

Hebrew, Yahveh or Jahveh, signifying the Self-existent

One, or The Eternal. This name is generally rendered in

our English version of the Old Testament as Lord,

printed in capitals.”

We think enough is given to show that our references to

God, Christ, Savior, etc., are used more frequently in referring to

the office or title than to the individual. Here are some examples:

“I am the Lord God Almighty, and endless is my name,

for I am without beginning of days or end of years.”


This can refer only to the office, for the individual

occupying that position is not without “beginning of days or end

of years.” He was born-begotten, as all human beings have been.

But he came to occupy an office that has always existed and

always will exist. He, while an occupant of that office, is said to

be “without beginning of days or end of years;” and His name is

“Endless,” because that office never ends, though He Himself

may not always occupy it.

“Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant

whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me

and understand that I am he: before me there was no God

formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the

Lord; and beside me there is no savior.”


This is supposed to be the Savior talking to Israel in

prophecy. He says, “I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of

Israel.” If this scripture is given a literal interpretation it could

not refer to Jesus who was to become the son of Mary, for the

spokesman said, “Before me there was no God formed, neither

shall there be after me.” Reference is to the title or office. There

is only one true and living (office of) God. “Thou shalt have no

other Gods before me;” why? Because there is only one true

God, others being made by man or are man-conceived idols. But


20 Isaiah 43:10, 11.

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while there is only one true office of God, there are many

individuals permitted to occupy that office or to receive the titles

pertaining thereto in the respective stations to which they have

been or may be assigned. There is only one Colonel to a

Regiment, but there may be different Regiments, each headed by

a Colonel. This is equally true of the latter part of the passage:

“Besides me there is no savior.” There is only one Savior to this

earth, speaking specifically, although broadly speaking, every

man may be a savior to his father's house. The title is referred to.

Jesus Christ will become the Savior to this world, when his work

is completed, and there will be no other Savior (of the world)

besides him. There are other Saviors of other worlds or planets,

but only one for each planet. The title has always existed and

men are accorded the position as they receive their appointments

and quality.

When the Savior appeared to the Nephites after his

resurrection he was introduced by the Father as His “


Son, in whom I am well pleased

.” Then Jesus calls himself the

“God of Israel, the God of the whole earth”,

21 and the repentant

Nephites called him the “Most High God.” And yet Jesus told

them to pray to the Father in his (Jesus') name. It is evident from

this that while this Jesus was designated the “God of the whole

earth,” and the “Most High God,” there were other Gods higher

than he, His Father being one of them; and indicating further that

such expressions are open to interpretation.

In Doctrine and Covenants, Sec. 95, Jesus Christ calls

himself “Son Ahman; or, in other words, Alphus; or, Omegus;

even Jesus Christ your Lord.” And in verse 7 he calls himself the

“Lord of Sabaoth,” meaning the “creator of the first day, the

beginning and the end.”

By no rule of logic can these several terms be other than

titles. Jesus Christ, son of Mary, was not the creator of the first

day, the beginning and the end; that day was doubtless created

long before this Jesus became an embodied spirit.

“Behold, I am Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God,

who created the heavens and the earth.”


“By these things we know that there is a God in heaven,

21 3 Nephi 11 :14.

22 D. & C. 14:9.

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who is infinite and eternal, from everlasting to

everlasting, the same unchangeable God, the framer of

heaven and earth, and all things which are in them.”


By these sayings we learn that God, the father of Jesus

Christ, and not Jesus himself, is credited with being the creator.

And yet, speaking of the “Only Begotten of the Father” generally

supposed to be Jesus, son of Mary, the Lord says:

“That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds

are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are

begotten sons and daughters unto God.”


Again, the Lord told Moses:

“And worlds without number have I created; and I also

created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I

created them, which is mine Only Begotten.”


It is inconceivable that Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, in

his premortal state, created “worlds without end.” The text

clearly teaches that one of the chief functions of the “Son” is to

create worlds, under the direction of the “Father.” It will be

noted that the term “Only Begotten,” is capitalized, clearly

referring to an office and not a specific individual, only as the

individual occupies such office. The Prophet Mosiah, referring to

Jesus who was to be born of Mary, said:

“And he shall be called Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the

Father of heaven and earth, the Creator of all things,

from the beginning; and his mother shall be called



Here the coming son of Mary “to be called” Jesus Christ

etc., or in other words, he is to receive the title or office, whose

function is to create. Jesus Christ, son of Mary, did not

personally create the heavens and earth and numerous worlds,

23 D&C 20:17.

24 D&C 76:24.

25 Moses 1:33.

26 Mosiah 3:8.

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any more than Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United

States, freed the Negro slaves. The office did it. The glorified

being functioning in the office at the time did the creating or

organizing by virtue of the office held.

In Ether 3:15, Jesus Christ is credited with creating man;

“and never have I shown myself unto man whom I have

created.” And in Mosiah, 3:8, he was mentioned as “Jesus Christ,

the Son of God, the Father of heaven and earth, the Creator of all

things.” Here he is designated as the son of the creator.

These are but a few of the scriptures having reference to

the office of Creator, call him Jesus Christ, Almighty God,

Jehovah, Elohim, or what you may, which if not taken in the

light of title or office, become very confusing.

Dr. Talmage, as previously quoted, states that Jesus

Christ, the son of Mary, was the creator of this earth and was the

God who revealed himself to “Adam, Enoch and all the

antediluvial patriarchs.” But this cannot be true for this Jesus

was not himself created in the flesh at that time. True, he

possessed a spirit body, but had not yet qualified to create other

bodies, either spirit or mortal. He could not have spirit children,

for only those who have received mortal bodies, died and have

been resurrected, can qualify for spiritual parenthood. This point,

Dr. Talmage and the Church leaders concede. And certainly

before becoming mortal himself, Jesus could not create mortal

bodies. “Like begets like.”

On this point again we have the testimony of Brigham

Young. Said he:

“After men have got their exaltations and their crowns -

have become Gods, even the sons of God - are made

Kings of kings and Lords of lords, they have the power

then of propagating their species in spirit; and that is the


of their27 operations with regard to organizing a


28 Power is then given to them to organize the

elements, and then commence the organization of

tabernacles. How can they do it? Have they to go to that

27 “of their” was missed out of the third edition.

28 As Jesus Christ, son of Mary, had not gone through these various

steps, obviously he was not qualified to either beget spirit children,

or give them mortal bodies. much less to make a world for them to

live in.

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earth? Yes, an Adam will have to go there, and he cannot

do without Eve; he must have Eve to commence the

work of generation, and they will go into the garden, and

continue to eat and drink of the fruits of the corporeal

world, until this grosser matter is diffused sufficiently

through their celestial bodies to enable them, according

to the established laws, to produce mortal tabernacles for

their spiritual children. This is a key for you. The

faithful will become Gods, even the sons of God;”


Adam, having been mortal on a previous earth and died

and was resurrected and exalted to Godhood, was able to sire

spirit children; and as one in a higher position can function in all

positions below it, he was able to return to mortality and

organize mortal bodies; but Christ - he who was to be born to

Mary - never having before been mortal, could not create mortal

bodies. Neither can a pre-mortal unembodied spirit create an

earth upon which his brother spirits can go and take mortal

bodies and receive the experiences of mortality. The official

creator of this earth claims to have been the creator of many

earths. It is beyond human conception, contrary to all reason and

teachings of scripture, to hold that Jesus, the son of Mary, before

being born in mortality, organized not only many earths, but also

an earth for himself to be born on. True, in the councils of

heaven, presided over by His Father, he doubtless took an active

part in bringing his spiritual brothers and sisters in harmony with

the Father's design to build an earth as their future habitation.

He, no doubt, agreed to the plans in many ways assisted, in

accordance with his capacity to assist, in bringing the earth into

existence. But the earth was built, under the direction of Elohim

and Jehovah, the main builders being Michael and his brethren,

all of whom had gone through mortality, had received a

resurrection, and had qualified as Gods.

Michael, according to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young,

is the Father, he built the earth, brought forth His son Jesus in the

flesh and arranged for Him to manage it. And when Jesus Christ

has finished his work, as the Savior and Redeemer of this world,

doubtless he will be qualified to assist in creating other earths, on

which his spiritual children will be placed.

29 Deseret News, Sept. 18, 1852; Millennial Star 15: Supplement 16,

17, 32; Journal of Discourses 6:274, 275, 282, 283.

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Noah, Abraham, Joseph Smith, and others were

appointed to occupy certain positions with reference to the

progress and development of the earth. Their missions were to be

accomplished in conjunction with the mission of Jesus, but each

of them was powerless to accomplish his work until given a

body and introduced into a mortal sphere.

In Alma's statement: “

He (the Son of God) is the very

eternal Father of heaven and earth, and all things which in

them is; He is the beginning and the end, the first and the last

;” reference “Is there no more than one God?” asked Zeezrom. There

can be no more than one head God presiding over a planet. There

must be a head in every presidency. It is quite clear that Jesus

Christ will occupy that position when the time comes; he will be

the “Very Eternal Father of heaven and earth,” heaven being an

integral part of this earth. True, there will be other Gods assisting

Him. We are informed in Scripture there will be 144,000 who

will attain to Godhood.

“And I looked and lo, a lamb (Christ) stood on the mount

Sinai and with him a hundred and forty and four

thousand, having His Father's name written in their



These men were the “first fruits unto God and to the

Lamb,” and they were men without guile, “for they are without

fault before the throne of God.” There are “Lords many and

Gods many” - these 144,000 are to be Gods operating throughout

the earth and under the jurisdiction of Jesus Christ, the “Very

eternal Father (God) of heaven and earth,” who, in turn, operates

under His Father, who obviously, is the “Very Eternal Father” of

other heavens and earths, of which planetary system this earth is

a part. And so on back through the eternities of Gods, each of

whom was once “as man now is,” but who, through faithfully

living all the laws pertaining to his eternity finally attained

Godhood, filling an office that has “no beginning of days nor end

of years;” and by reason of such office he is said to be “without

beginning of days or end of years.”

“I am the Father and the Son.”

“I am both God and Savior and Redeemer.”

30 Revelations 14:1

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In the sense in which these terms “Father,” “Son,”

“Savior,” and “Redeemer” are used, they, as stated, represent

titles or offices. Jesus Christ was one individual, not two. He

could not be more than one, but he could hold two offices and

have two or more titles. Joseph Smith was President of

Priesthood, President of the Church, and President of the High

Council at Kirtland, at one and the same time - the two latter

offices being subordinate to that of President of the Priesthood.

Jesus Christ was ordained not only to the office of the “Only

Begotten Son,” but also to the office of the “Savior,” the

“Redeemer,” the “Father,” etc. By reason of his faithfulness he

will be capable of filling all offices pertaining to the Godhead of

this earth, but in his presidency he will also be presided over by

other “Gods,” “Fathers,” “Only Begotten Sons,” “Saviors,”

“Redeemers,” etc.

It will be remembered that Elder Joseph Fielding Smith,

in criticizing the doctrine embraced in the 1852 address of

Brigham Young, wherein Adam was proclaimed to be the God of

this earth and the Father of Jesus Christ, set out two specific


“President Brigham Young spoke perhaps a thousand

times in which he declared that Jesus Christ is the Son of

God the Father who created Adam, and that Adam is the

son of God.

I will say frankly that I believe President

Brigham Young was not properly quoted in this

discourse. He did not see it before it was published in

England. I firmly believe this for the implication in this

discourse is foreign to all that President Young taught.

For proof of this see Brigham Young's Discourses.”

In so broad a statement from one claiming the Apostolic

calling and holding the office of “Church Historian,” one might

logically assume that throughout Brigham Young's discourses

there is to be found indisputable evidence of a contradiction of

the doctrines set forth in his 1852 address. Elder Smith says

“perhaps thousands” of such contradictions exist, and the reputed

sermon was “foreign to all that Brigham Young taught.”

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  • "But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken?"  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Two 1834-37 Pg.60
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·         10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. (New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)

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